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Cliff Lonsdale: This, this is a
this is a real problem among the

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suicide prevention community
because there are advocates in

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there who say stop doing stories
about people who killed

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themselves and do stories about
people who didn't kill

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themselves, because that will
send the right message. Well,

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I'm sorry, but you know, stories
about people who didn't kill

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themselves and thought, just on
their own don't cut it. They do

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not get the attention that they
that's required to make a

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difference here.