I mean, we'd already spoken, I'd already spoken to a lot of people who were affected by this tragedy, like, you know, quite closely, so. But by the next day, I think it was when the staff from the music cafe had started to gather outside the school, you know, the shelter was. And I remember they were all hugging, and they were sitting under a tree sort of away from the front door. And they were some of them were wearing newsy cafe t shirts. So I knew, you know, I knew who they were. And obviously, they knew they had lost a lot of friends and, and co workers, things like that. So I actually sat there for about not far from them for like, almost an hour, I was there early in the morning. And I was so nervous to approach them. And just because I just thought for sure, I didn't want to upset them, I thought I'd be rejected, and upset them at the same time. And it just, I was just sort of thinking about the way to approach them. And anyway, eventually, I worked up the courage to just do it. And it worked. And, you know, a couple of them didn't want to talk to me, but a couple of them did. And they they spoke at length and they were they were happy to talk to me. So like I said, I guess he just you just have to approach people in it. And then you know, the gentlest way possible. Again, sometimes you do hear stories about reporters who are much too aggressive. And I think in these cases, I mean, you know, first and foremost, we're all humans, right? Like you have to, you have to treat people like human beings so not not just sort of a clip machine.