If I had been asked I would have said that it would be appropriate to be descriptive but not graphic. So that euphemism as a device, as a writer's device, as a journalistic device is just as effective and in some instances may be more powerful. But I think that the public has the right to know but does not have the right to indulge and that becomes a difficult choice for journalists. I think what the problem with visuals in news is that we tend as journalists to want to see how close to the edge we can go before someone stops us. Whether it's our bosses or our conscience or the public and I think that in my experience in newsrooms news organizations are constantly saying how much can we get away with. Now they may not say it quite so openly as that but that's always the implication. Can we put this on the air without grossing out our viewers and I think that that has become part of the problem especially in a highly competitive era that we find ourselves in. In which the financial uh and audience underpinnings of support have been taken away, mostly by the internet.